Letter from President, IITTA : “Save IIT System”
Posted in: Campus Events on August 20, 2009 | Comments (22)
Reproduced below is a letter drafted by Prof. Kanchan Chowdhury, President of the IIT Teachers’ Association, Kharagpur outlining the dismal pay scales of the faculty, and proposing a course of action.
Dear Colleagues of IIT Kharagpur and all other IITs,
You know how our Assistant Professors have been battered forcing them to languish at PB-3. You must also be aware that our Associate Professors have been placed lower than UGC professors (with AGP 9500 as opposed to AGP 10000) and get less privileges, status and perks. Even our Professors have been humiliated. While Mehta Committee recommended automatic up-gradation to AGP of 12000 after 5 years, the ministry wants only 40% Professors to get it after another rigorous selection process. (The attached file illustrates all these points).
Unless we wake up from slumber and shake off our pseudo-elitism, probably, the time has come for all of us to write an obituary to the hallowed IIT system.
The 6th pay commission blow meted out by MHRD, which hits hard and gives a pay structure that falls far below the demand of IIT Federation and the recommendation of Mehta Committee, is the culmination of a 6 months long of manipulation by the powers-that-be to pull down the IIT system to the level that our country is long used to.
For a long time, the IIT system has been the sore point of the moneyed and powerful persons of the country as it allows (apart from close to 50% socially disadvantaged) only the brilliant students to get into the system. Many rich and powerful have sent their children abroad because they could not get into the IITs. How long can this situation be allowed to continue!
Many private institutions have come up with large investments. Foreign Universities (not necessarily the best ones) would be allowed to set up their campuses on Indian soil very soon. How would they get competent faculty? Therefore, it has become absolutely necessary to frustrate the existing and future IIT faculty, particularly the younger teachers, by giving them a raw deal in salary and perks so that they finally decide to switch to systems that can serve the rich and the influential. The plot seems perfect in planning and execution. The first battle has been won by those opposed to IIT system. But Friends, we have to reach to the nation and the people, who are supreme and placed higher than even the Government that has let us down so badly, explaining them the present situation and projection of the future,. That is our hope and the only hope to rescue IIT system from extinction.
The question at this juncture is: can the existing IIT teachers prevent it? Or, are they too weak in comparison to the powers that are pitted against the IIT system?
The answer is: Yes and No.
The Faculty body of IIT Kharagpur, at their meeting on the 19th August, 2009, has decided to impress upon all the faculty-administrators to resign their posts. Rationale behind this decision is as follows:
MHRD has appointed Directors to run the IIT show. They need faculty support to run its affairs. 100% of the teachers of IITs are engaged in some or the other extra-teaching work. Only non-cooperation from Deputy Director, Deans, Heads of Departments, Chairmen, Professors-in -charge, Departmental in-charges resulting from their resignations can bring the Directors to the doorstep of MHRD. If the affairs go on as they are going without affecting the functioning of the institutes, then we stand no chance. Unless all the Directors express their inability to run the IITs under the prevailing circumstances, you can expect no reaction from the MHRD. I am sorry that there is no short cut. Also I am sorry to say that our battle has to be fought by us and not by others in the media.
Casual Leave on the 21st August should see no classes and no laboratories at IIT Kharagpur.
Please do not ask the question: what have the others done? You do it first. Note down the names of those who did not cooperate. When the obituary of IIT system would be written, at least you can get the solace from the fact that you did whatever was asked of you.
Kind regards,
Kanchan Chowdhury
President IITTA Kharagpur
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August 20th, 2009 at 18:14
is tomorrow a holiday then??
August 20th, 2009 at 18:28
The government and the politicians of our country seem hell-bent on destroying IITs and IIMs for their narrow gains. Such an attitude towards education and educators and we call India an emerging superpower !
August 20th, 2009 at 19:01
When we the students of IIT Kharagpur and many other institutions all over India were protesting against 27% reservation of seats, where were these profs who are now crying for the IIT system ?
I feel sorry that talent is undervalued so much in our nation and our profs have to make do with low salaries. However, why has their conscience woken up now when their pockets are involved ? Were we not fighting for the “IIT System” ? Were we also not fighting for excellence and all the other nice things Prof. Chaudhury has mentioned ?
In the same vein as this letter, I would say that our faculty will now understand how alone they are before the all powerful government without the support of their students. Even if they win this battle, it will be short lived. They will soon realize how cunning and crafty “the rest of India can be.”
With regret and Apathy,
Abhishek Ghosh,
03AR1009,
Class of 2008,
Rajendra Prasad Hall of Residence,
IIT Kharagpur
August 20th, 2009 at 20:32
While I sympathize with your point of view, don’t you think that its ironic that students and teachers engage in verbal duelery while our common foe, the corrupt politicians, make merry? We waste our time bickering when we should be presenting a united front. God forbid that you should be in such a situation, but you will truly understand our plight only if you take up a teaching position at the “hallowed” IITs.
Regards,
Kanchan Chowdhury
August 20th, 2009 at 21:10
andre, holiday is a diro’s call.
Abhishek, you have a point. Extending this IITian should respond to other national/social issues too when other orgn. does it.
What Prof. Chowdhury terms as ‘pseudo-elitism’ is perhaps the strength of IIT system and not its weakness. Disruptive form of protests may open pandora’s box. Ministry hasn’t delivered, boycott job given by ministry. Prof. has not delivered, boycott his/her class.
Can we not find other way of protests when the best brains are here?
August 20th, 2009 at 21:30
Respected Profs,
Is this approach to save the IIT system? Or the first step to destroy the IIT system? I think your consience is better than our. So follow your real consience.
Regards,
Ramesh Babu
August 20th, 2009 at 21:38
I totally agree with what Prof. Kanchan has outlined above. It is the vested interest of foreign biggies as well as rich of india, to help ease establishment of oxford-india, cambridge-india and the like. how else will these new institutes get the coveted “cream of the nation” until they dilute the name and image of the IIT’s.
@Abhishek i believe the reservations were enforced to dilute the brand name among other things. lets not debate and fight among ourselves, and do not raise fingers at people who did not support then. let us unite and set an example.
August 20th, 2009 at 22:19
Though I don’t believe that the Indian government is smart enough to think of this, I think there can be a logic behind the disparity shown shown towards IIT Professors. The IITs serve a very small fraction of the Indian student community and there are millions of them studying in various NITs and other engineering institutes across India. While we crib over the fact that ‘some’ of our professors are not up to the mark, the students in these institutes have to put up with a situation where most of the professors are not competent enough to teach them at a high level. Probably this move is intended to draw good professors towards these institutes as well.
August 21st, 2009 at 01:56
As a current student and a conscientous citizen of India,my full support is with the faculty in their hour of trial. Let this small protest be a catalyst of a bigger and more grassroots level change in the politics and the politicians of this country. In all mature democracies and even in China, it is the publicly funded research universities which provide the backbone of intelligentsia and also political theorists, philosophers and politicians to the society. If India has to become a superpower anytime soon, we need to ensure that our teachers are well compensated and their needs taken care of so that they can focus on teaching, innovating, theorizing and research for the overall growth and prosperity of our beloved nation.
August 21st, 2009 at 10:06
can’t we have “Income” based fees structure for student?? I’m sure those of who feel privileged to be in IITs and can afford to pay more, will be willing to pay more for the tremendous facilities provided by IITs.
August 21st, 2009 at 10:21
@ashish: if there was darkness in your room, and only a few candles lit, while all of them flicker, would you try to keep those few lit or go in search of new candles that could give light better?
and talking of those other institutes, i know of some profs in universities who get salary around 40k, yet take no classes and to top it all take tuitions to earn extra money. while 6th PC was supposed to attract talent where there is a dearth, it seems all the wrong people are benefiting from it while deserving ones have to take extreme measures. there should definitely be differential pay scheme as per talent and output. tell me why should a non PhD even get similar salary as to one having PhD+experience+publications…!!!
this is outright unjustified
August 21st, 2009 at 14:58
Dear Prof.Kanchan,
I am 79 Alumnus & actively involved in Global Alumni Movement.
Any Institute of Global excellence has four pillar,excellent student intake,excellent self motivated faculties,top class infra & last but not the least passionate Alumni for the greater cause of their Alma Mater.
In the eara of LPG(Libersation,Globalisation & Privatisation),retaining talent is the most challening task today whether it is a corpoate sector or public sector or in Institute of excellence like IIT.IIT faculties are poorly remunerated as compared to corporate sector.As a faculty of Institute of excellence ,they must be diffentiated from UGC faculty.To day VC of any Univ are available for sale INR 30M onwards so also Chairman AICTE,Chairman UGC.
I strongly feel we must have national debate in both print & as well as electronic media how we Indian would like to treat our respected priceless teachers.IIT brand has become truly world class in less than five decades & if we want to sustain the same then we need to revist all the four pillars of Institute of excellence.The immediate need of the hour is to partner with other IIT faculties & Alumni Bodies including the student body to give a strong msg to our Hon PM
Dr Man Mohan Singh.
As an executive member of IIT KHARAGPUR ALUMNI FOUNDATION ,I appeal to all our fellow alumni to address the issue in right perspective.
August 22nd, 2009 at 11:45
@ Murmu Sir
In the current mess made by our political class, the only remedy for the IITs and IIMs is corporatization of their respective boards with full autonomy regarding pay and curriculum. The boards must have a strong representation from the alumni and the faculty as well as from the government and industry but should be independent of the control of the Ministry of HRD and the politicians who have made the best institutions of the country a cheap tool for narrow political gains.
August 22nd, 2009 at 17:37
Dear fellow teachers,
I have been writing blogs on this topic for about last 8 months but during this time all of you showed ‘patience’ (timidity?) when I quoted Shakespear – “They would have not become wolves had we not become lambs”. Exactly the same thing happened and we opted to remain lambs and they obviously became wolves . Anyway ‘Better late than never’. Now Technical Teachers all over the country should rise as one person against the ‘humiliation’ caused by the babus of MHRD and take a unisoned course. The IITs or NITs or any other tech institute’s teachers come forward and think not only for themselves in isolation bu for all. The NITs or other tech teachers also spend the same career years to reach a level in the hirerchy. So
(1) All the tech teachers should be placed above the UGC scales, as envisaged in G Mehta Report.
(2) NITs should be placed above the General Tech Colleges.
(3) IITs (Including IIITs and ISM Dhanbad) should be placed at the super scales.
(4) Downgrading of any Institute without any valid reason or because of degradation in the quality of academic activites of the institute should not be done only by the ‘sweet will’ of the babus of MHRD. The upgrading or downgrading of any institute should be based only on the assesement by proper and consecutively (at least for 3 years) conducted academic audit by proper committees of renouned academicians of the technical fields. So the present downgrading of IIITs and ISM Dhanbad is ILLIGLE and UNCALLED FOR and should immediately be withdrawn unconditionally by MHRD as their first step. Today it is IIITs and ISM Dhanbad,, and tomorrow if this continues, (who knows) may be the axe falls on any established IIT if it does not ‘conform’ the great MHRD?
(5) The scales given given to all CFIs ( IITs/ IIMs, IIITs, ISM, IISC NITs etc. ) should be respecable.
(6) The lenght of service of the existing faculty needs be recognised and should reflect in their basic pay. Look at the proposed pay which reminds of the saying which best fits to MHRD bosses:
‘ANDHER NAGREE CHUPATT RAJA, TAKKEY SEAR BHAAJEE TAKKYE SEAR KHAJA’
for example:
(a) A new entrant (basic pay in old scale -12000) as Assistant Professor will get 30,000 as basic pay and an existing Asst Professor with 10 years of service with basic pay of 16200 will get 30140 – a mere Rs 140 for his 10 years experince all of which gets washed for the ‘WISDOM’ of MHRD officials sitting in DELHI in their AC rooms!!
(b) A new entrant as Associate professor (Basic pay in old scale 16400) will get 42800 as new basic pay and an existing Associate Professor for 6 years, whose basic pay is 19100 (may be with a total about 27 years teaching experince0 will get Rs 43390 – a mere Rs 590 for his experince and service rendered to the institute for so many years.- All because of the ‘POWER AND JUDGEMENT OF SOME MHRD JARGONS’ sitting in DELHI in ther AC Rooms!!
(c)A newly appointed Professor will get basic pay of Rs 48000 on joining but a serving old (may not be so old) Professor who has devoted his life in the profession and with 6 years experince as Professor will get a basic pay of Rs 48870 just Rs 870 being the price of all what he has over the fresh person who has not given anything to the institute and may be very new in teaching. All his experince, knowledge, control over the subject and pedagogy will fetch him Rs 870 only over a brand new Professor, ‘COURTESY’ again to the ‘HARD WORK, EFFORTS, DELIBERATIONS, THINKING, AND THE CONFIDENTIALTY MAINTAINED’ by great MHRD babus again sitting ….!!
THIS MEANS MHRD WANTS TO LURE NEW PEOPLE TO JOIN IITs/IIMs, BUT DOES NOT WANT TO RETAIN THE ALREADY EXISTING FACULTY.
This can be said in other words:
For new entrants ‘Welcome’ at the Gate ,
And ‘Humiliation’ for the already inmates.
JAI HO!!!
August 23rd, 2009 at 00:20
Would the professors compensate for the man hours wasted in IIT due to the strike by taking the extra classes?
If not, then they are setting a wrong trend.
August 23rd, 2009 at 03:12
90% IIT Professors are mediocre people, who ended up in this field because they are not capable of fending for themselves corporate sector. Nor is their research comparable to the faculty of the top US universities. Only, handful faculty are exception to this rule, and they are truly outstanding, and at per with the best anywhere.
So far as the fame of IIT is concerned, it is only because of the good work done by its alumni ( read mostly B.Techs or IITJEE qualifiers) who are easily the best in the country (only the best can qualify JEE). These people who are intelligent and hard-working enough to qualify JEE and patient enough to withstand the competition at IITs,(trust me the average IITan learns more from his friends than instructors) will do well in life (regardless of their undergrad schools).
So its high time that the average tom-dick-harry associated with the IIT system, stop pretending that they are the protector and pro creator of IIT system. So long as the IITJEE standard is not diluted
the IITs will always take the best. And the best will always beat the rest.
August 24th, 2009 at 23:05
Dear Mr. IITian @US , I am sure that you are not aware of the current realities of the Indian Higher Education sector since you live in the US now.
The reality is that with the process of privatization and the globalization of Indian education sector, there are no holy cows anymore in education including the IITs and IIMs. In fact, the big private players in the market have all the money, resources, contacts and intention to poach the best talent from the IITs and IIMs in order to make their ventures successful. You will be surprised to know that many of these players are themselves B.Techs or M.Techs from IITs.In fact, an M.Tech student from any of the IITs at Kanpur, Bombay, Madras and Delhi can easily make around 3-4 lac p.a. just by teaching part-time at private Engineering colleges during weekends. This is more money than an Associate Professor at an IIT would make in a year. On passing out, the very same colleges and deemed universities are ready to shell out anything between 40-60,000 per month in order to afford the services of these students as full-time faculty. In Maharashtra, you do not even need to be a full-time faculty and you can make 1-2 lac per month easily by teaching simultaneously in 4-5 colleges/deemed universities and many people have made it their vocation to be freelance Professors. And mind you , this does not require any more hard work than preparing your lecture notes, binding them in a copy, and teaching the same stuff in every college. There is absolutely no pressure to be ‘brilliant’ and publish research papers like in IITs and IIMs in order to get the next salary raise/promotion, it’s just your stamina to stand and lecture for hours that is the key.
Now with the world class universities like Harvard,Oxford, Georgia Tech etc set to start their campuses in India from next year onwards, they would like to poach the ‘research’ faculty from IITs and IIMs and rest assured that they will not only offer good pay packages but also the freedom to research and consult, which is now available only in IITs and IIMs which will make it too tempting for the ’10%’ faculty you talk about in your post, to leave IITs and IIMs for good for greener pastures.
It is a genuine fear amongst the IIT faculty that such a poor pay hike as has been proposed by the MHRD has been done under the pressure of these big Indian and Foreign universities/players so that not only are the best professors tempted to leave but also that they would accept much lesser pay packages than they would have got if the salaries at IITs were higher. This is not an issue of the students or the JEE or anything that you think Mr. IITian, rather, it is an issue of an Indian citizen’s fundamental right to get the appropriate livelihood commensurate with his/her talent. This is an issue of the fundamental rights of the intellectual worker and not of any IIT student or ex-student.
You harp on the maintenance of quality of the JEE exam but forget that nobody from heaven comes and organizes the JEE but it is only the faculty and staff of IITs who organize JEE smoothly and efficiently from year to year. And now with the UG infrastructure at the best private universities in India matching (and even surpassing the IITs in some respects, especially residential and mess facilities), the IITs are at the top only because that the faculty here is still the best available in the country (whatever might be your opinion on them but this is the best faculty that we have in India, period) and that there is a strong culture of research here.
Take away this faculty and I guarantee that within five years you will feel ashamed to call yourself an IITian because the market respects nobody. Even Harvard and Stanford survive because they pay their faculty very well and allow them to teach at other universities also, and they also give the faculty full freedom for research and consulting assignments so that they do not leave. Still the faculty attrition rate is very high there (I know because my relatives have taught in these universities as faculty at some point of time or the other and they all left for greener pastures when they got the opportunity). India, like the US, is now a big education market. And if you want to maintain your standing in this market you would have to create your own space and USP. Otherwise, as I said earlier, with the current schemes of the MHRD, you will be ashamed to call yourself an IITian within the next few years.
August 27th, 2009 at 07:51
Our friend “IITan@US” seems to be living in the medieval age. Can’t blame him as he is busy making those dollars and needs the justification for staying there. For these guys, branding every thing in India as bad, is a necessity more than any thing else.
One needs to realize that nothing is sacrosanct about the JEE system any more. Any one can get through JEE these days, if they go to Kota, and forget two years of their life there. Students who go to NITs are equally good, it is the system that exists in NITs which spoils them, unlike what happens in IITs. IITs survive because of the culture that exists there and because of the faculty who maintain this culture. At many IITs, B.Techs form just about 30-40% of the total student strength, so they are only the byproducts of the system right now, not the main products. It is the M.Techs & Ph.Ds who are the custodians of quality research that the IITs are becoming known for, who help so many high tech industries strive and flourish in Bangalore & else where. Every thing that the MHRD has done in the last 6 years is towards destroying the IIT system. Reservations among students & faculty, pay revisions, mushrooming of so many new IITs with no planning what so ever, etc. etc.
August 31st, 2009 at 03:29
I don’t know the topic that is being discussed but some of the observations made by a few (probable) matkas and rassas necessitates what is to come.
Sensible IIT professors have themselves time and again have vehemently agreed to the fact that Brand IIT is what it is today because of the excellent quality of B.Techs. who’ve made it big after graduating from IIT. Occassionally there have been M.Techs. and may be even Rassas who have made it real big, but their fraction is undoubtedly insignificant in comparison.
Rassas especially and matkas too definitely need to understand that they did appear for IITJEE (may be multiple times) and did not manage to squeeze their names into list even once. They failed in an exam whereas their counterparts, the B.Tech., most definitely have managed to make it to the final list – that definitely is an achievement. You cannot, ABSOLUTELY CANNOT, negate the fact that in this initial race you were left behind by the B.Techs.
What is sad is that most of the professors, themselves have been pretty BAD students too. Look at their education profile and you can understand yourself. Most of them are products of places like Calcutta University and Kalyani University and the like and good hardworking students, in general, do not go to such universities. These faculty members are not interested in teaching AT ALL – they just teach ‘coz they did not get a chance anywhere else not because their goals were to teach at IIT. There are exceptions like PPC in CS deptt and many profs in EE and EC, but they constitute only a small fraction of the super dumb group of underachieving people. Why else would the Dean and the Diro spend a summer in the US searching for IIT UNDERGRADS (B.Techs.) and offer (plead) them to come back to teach at IIT.
Yes the standards of JEE are falling but that’s because of Indian politics which has slowly crept into the education system too and which wants to make it implode or something. It is becoming easier for some random students to get in. But it is MOST uncalled for, for a matka or a rassa, who never ever managed to clear IITJEE, to make any sort of a comment in this regard.
I support IITian@US with my heart if he made any sort of a comment about these issues and would be more than willing to rebut the random rumblings of the underachieving throng.
September 1st, 2009 at 16:21
whats with the snobbery dude? yeah u cleared JEE so what? that doesn’t make you competent enough to lord over the world!! the concern about IIT Faculty is very real very very serious. lets not boils it down to B.Tech v/s M.Tech bullshit. grow up for Christ sake. lets face it – for any insistute of higher education to survive, we need people to do quality research work and B.Techs DONT do tht!…they jus get their MNC jobs and US postings and run after money(make it big blah blah blah). i dont deny that research in IITs is mediocre but at least its thr is some going on!!
I, as a final year B.Tech student, say tht we cant be above other students and the faculty of the institute. because when we come together – only the IIT becomes IIT
September 2nd, 2009 at 06:43
Hardika, that’s the spirit! Thanks Ram.
Prof. Giridhar Madras of IISc, Bangalore maintains a nice blog. There was something on this ‘Pay Scale’ issue. Interestingly, in the comment section one IITB alumnus raised a similar point. To this some IITkgp Prof., and Prof. Giridhar himself responded like this.
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I follow this blog regularly and for quite some time. I believe that many of my colleagues at IITkgp or other IITs also do so. My sincere thanks to Prof. Giridhar.
Since there are many like me who benefit from this blog from India and abroad, some of them are aspiring faculty members of the IITs, I think I should respond to one observation of an alumnus of IITB.
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IITs may be slightly better. But many IIT faculty would not have got admitted there as a student. When I studied in IIT-Bombay, we have a quotation,
“If you can not become a B.Tech student, then become a M.Tech student; If you are not able to become a M.Tech student, then become a Ph.D student; If you are not able to even become a Ph.D student, become a faculty; Worse, if you are unable to become a faculty, then become the director”
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I did my BTech in one of the IITs (1986-1990). I had many friends who did not crack IIT-JEE when I did but they were no less good and doing quite well in their career. I am now teaching in a IIT for more than seven years. Before that I taught in a Pvt. Engg. College of India for about three years. I have seen many IIT-BTech.s and nonIIT-BTech.s. My humble observation is : The top 10 percent BTechs in any other college is definitely better than bottom 10 percent of IITs. For better managed other colleges even the top 50 percent are better than bottom 50 percent of IITs or more.
As a research faculty I am handling IIT BTechs (final year project), MTech, MS and PhD students. The last three categories are filled up definitely not by IIT BTechs who look for greener pastures. I must say that I am impressed by these non-IITians (mostly MS & PhD) dedication, thirst for knowledge, perseverance. These qualities are largely absent in most of the IIT BTechs who are looking for a short cut to success.
I remember an old adage : It is not important where you stand but the direction you go.
IIT BTechs are good as long as their direction is right. Non IIT BTechs deserve more kudos as they are the ones living up to the challenge and need of the country which their IIT counterpart largely avoids. And this includes the responsibility of raising/educating IIT BTech.s.
I hope I have not offended anyone – just wanted to comment on some well preserved myths. If any IIT BTech student/guardian is reading this comment, my request would be to consider the following – (1)Please treat that the admission to an IIT is beginning of the journey, not the end of it. I have seen many IIT BTechs spoiling themselves in my batch and more now. (2)Please don’t pay attention to somebody preaching you that IIT faculty members are sub-standard (since most of them have not cracked IIT-JEE as one IIT-JEE doesn’t make or break one’s life). IITs have stringent quality checks in faculty recruitment (3)Compared to their counter parts in advanced countries who get the toppers from India, China, South Korea, … IIT faculty usually gets 5th level students of India (not IIT BTech, not NIT BTech, not IIT MTech, not toppers from Pvt. College) for their research Lab.s. They still manage to do international level work. The students (whom a faculty in a good university abroad will not dare to admit in his group) raise themselves so well in four years – it is wonderful to watch that transformation as a faculty guide (4)Finally, please remember, ‘Shraddhaban labhate Jnanam’ – ‘The one who respects, learns’. Respect your teacher, parents, country – you will do well in life.
Regarding 6PC, I have nothing to add. I am happy with what I am getting or whatever is finally offered.
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Dear Krishnan,
I am not going to comment in detail regarding your post. Prof. GS has already done a wonderful job in that.
In IISc, we hardly recruit anyone who has not studied in IIT/IISc/top 20 schools in USA. To claim that JEE is the holy grail in ridiculous. JEE does not judge research skills. To succeed in research requires not only intelligence but also motivation, hard work and perseverance.
Regarding money, your point is well taken that government can not increase pay for everyone. It can only provide a base salary in which one can lead a comfortable life. If any faculty wants to earn more than that, there are several options, as you point out.
Thanks
Giridhar
November 23rd, 2009 at 14:04
The beginning of the same rubbish about IIt as I saw many years ago. IIt’S are a overfunded wasted resource by chacha nehru (thanks the chinese taught him a lesson). IIt is not MIT, Oxford nor any other universities in the world known for both innovation and application of its technology in business. IIt funding should be cut 70% and balance distributed among other engineering institutions in India. Plus there are innumerable B.Techs who are good for nothing and do not deserve a job. This is the truth just accept it.